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Senior Editor of PJ Media, Tyler O'Neil is an author and conservative commentator. He has written for numerous publications, including Christian Post, National Review, the Washington Free Beacon, the Daily Signal, and the Colson Center's Breakpoint. He has appeared on Fox News' Tucker Carlson Tonight. He is the author of Making Hate Pay: The Corruption of the Southern Poverty Law Center. He enjoys Indian food, board games, and talking ceaselessly about politics, religion, and culture.

Readings & Resources

Action Items

  • Follow Tyler O'Neil on Twitter: @Tyler2ONeil
  • Tweet about the SPLC’s corruption using the hashtag #MakingHatePay
  • Whenever you hear or read about the SPLC or its "Hate Map," write the editor, speak out, correct the record!
  • Write to your congressmen, big tech, and corporate america, encouraging them to stop trusting the SPLC
Direct download: 35-ONeil.mp3
Category:religious liberty -- posted at: 1:06pm PDT

(May 15, 2020) Dr J is Father Rob Jack's guest on Sacred Heart Radio's "Driving Home the Faith." They're discussing Anderson Cooper's recent purchase of a baby through surrogacy.

Direct download: May16_20.mp3
Category:artificial reproductive technologies -- posted at: 12:00pm PDT

Dr. Pat Fagan is Founder and Director of the Marriage and Religion Research Institute (MARRI) at the Family Research Council (now a part of The Catholic University of America). He is also a professional therapist specializing in child, family and marital therapy for couples considering divorce. He publishes and edits Marripedia.org, a Wikipedia-like resource on social sciences of impact of marriage and religious worship.

This is an audio podcast of The Dr J Show. Full video episode is available here.

Dr. Fagan has authored over thirty synthesis papers and has commissioned dozens of original research projects in marriage, family, child development, and religious practice. His decades of analyzing federal surveys and social science studies has proven that marriage is the foundational relationship in society, and fidelity is its foundational virtue. His research has shown that the cultivation of both faithfulness and marriage is integral to all vibrant cultures.

Dr. Fagan began his career as a teacher in Ireland, then became a clinical psychologist specializing in child, family and marital therapy in Canada. Because of his deep concerns about government undermining marriage and the family, he entered the public policy field in the U.S.

He assisted Senator Dan Coats (R-Ind.), became Deputy Assistant Secretary for Family and Social Policy at the U.S. Health and Human Services under President George H. Bush. Dr. Fagan is a Senior Fellow of Family and Culture at the Heritage Foundation and a Fellow at The Austin Institute in Texas.

Dr. Fagan and his wife Theresa have eight children and twelve grandchildren.

Direct download: 34-Fagan.mp3
Category:Marriage -- posted at: 2:26pm PDT

Tracy Shannon is mother of 4 blessings and a grandmother. She has studied what she calls the “neo-morality movement” for 20 years. Tracy’s family was profoundly impacted by the transgender movement many years ago, and that moved Tracy from the sidelines (merely protecting her own children from being inducted into "new" sexual mores) and onto the battlefront in the culture wars.

Recently, Tracy has taken on Drag Queen Story Hours in Texas and across the country. She exposed how libraries determined to introduce children to adult entertainers and transsexuals disregarded their own policies allowing sex offenders to be held out as role models to young children in taxpayer-funded public libraries.

This is an audio podcast of The Dr J Show. Full video episode is available here.

Tracy is the Texas Director for MassResistance Texas, and led parents there in pushing back against the debauched drag queen program for children as young as four. She has also contributed to research of the programs across the nation and helped parents in several states push back against this programming.

Direct download: 33-Shannon.mp3
Category:transgender -- posted at: 12:00pm PDT

Dr. Donald Hilton is a neurosurgeon specializing in spine surgery. Dr. Hilton graduated cum laude with his medical degree from the University of Texas-Galveston. He did his surgery internship and residency in neurosurgery at the University of Tennessee.

Dr. Hilton currently serves as a clinical associate professor of neurology at the University of Texas Medical School in San Antonio and is nationally recognized for developing the first tubular dilating system. This system has widely impacted surgical treatment for herniated discs, degenerative joints, and spinal stenosis. Dr. Hilton is a published author of several book chapters, peer-reviewed journals, and a book, titled He Restoreth My Soul.

This is an audio podcast of The Dr J Show. Full video episode is available here.

Direct download: 32-Hilton.mp3
Category:abuse -- posted at: 12:00pm PDT

Steven W. Mosher is an internationally recognized author and the foremost Western authority on China and on population issues, as well as an acclaimed and sought-after speaker. He has worked tirelessly since 1979 to fight coercive population control programs and has helped hundreds of thousands of women and families worldwide.

In 1979, Steven was the first American social scientist to visit mainland China. He was invited there by the Chinese Communist government, where he had access to government documents and actually witnessed women being forced to have abortions under the “one-child policy:” killing preborns in the seventh, eighth, and ninth month of pregnancy. Steven was a pro-choice atheist at the time, but witnessing these traumatic abortions led him to reconsider his convictions and to eventually become a practicing, pro-life Roman Catholic.

This is an audio podcast of The Dr J Show. Full video episode is available here.

Steven has appeared numerous times before Congress as an expert in world population, China, and human rights abuses. He has also made TV appearances on Good Morning America, 60 Minutes, The Today Show, 20/20, FOX and CNN news, as well as being a regular guest on talk radio shows across the nation. He is also the author of the best-selling A Mother’s Ordeal: One Woman’s Fight Against China’s One-Child Policy. Among his many other books are Population Control andBully of Asia: Why 'China's Dream' is the New Threat to World Order.

Articles by Steve have appeared in The Wall Street Journal, Reader’s Digest, The New Republic, The Washington Post,National Review, Reason, The Asian Wall Street Journal, Freedom Review, Linacre Quarterly, Catholic World Report,Human Life Review, First Things, and countless other publications.

Steven Mosher lives in Virginia with his wife, Vera, and their nine children.

Resources

Action Items:

Direct download: 31-Mosher.mp3
Category:abortion -- posted at: 12:00pm PDT

Betsy Kerekes is the happily married mother of three girls and a boy. She shares amusing, light-hearted stories about her husband and children at parentingisfunny.wordpress.com. Her first book with Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse, 101 Tips for a Happier Marriage, has three foreign translations. She also wrote 101 Tips for Marrying the Right Person with Dr. Morse. She has published multiple articles, has been on numerous radio shows, and was a week-long guest on EWTN's "Women of Grace." She has also done public speaking, including the annual "Parenting with Purpose" conference in Washington, D.C. Her latest book is Be A Happier Parent or Laugh Trying. Betsy serves the Ruth Institute as online editor of our newsletter, our Facebook page, and much more.

This is an audio podcast of an episode of The Dr J Show (full video here.)

Resources and Readings

Direct download: 30-Kerekes-parenting.mp3
Category:parenting -- posted at: 12:00pm PDT

(April 13, 2020) Dr J is speaking with Pastor Michael Demastus on Faith Works Live. Their topic is the sexual revolution as pushed by the state.

Direct download: Apr13_20.mp3
Category:The Sexual State -- posted at: 12:00pm PDT

Attorney Cathy Ruse has devoted her career to promoting the dignity of the human person --a career that spans the fields of communication, public policy, law, and language remediation.

This is an audio podcast of The Dr J Show. Full video episode is available here.

Currently, Mrs. Ruse serves as Family Research Council’s Senior Fellow for Legal Studies. She is also Legal Supervisor for Ave Maria School of Law/Culture of Life Foundation Washington Externship Program, and she is a Certified Dyslexia Therapist.

Mrs. Ruse previously served the United States' House of Representatives as Chief Counsel of the Constitution Subcommittee, and the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops as pro-life spokesman. Prior to her policy and advocacy work, Mrs. Ruse practiced law in Washington D.C. She has testified as an expert in congressional hearings in both the House and the Senate, and she has filed "Friend of the Court" briefs with the U.S. Supreme Court.

Mrs. Ruse received her law degree from Georgetown University and her doctorate in Humane Letters from Franciscan University. She holds multiple professional certifications in the field of Academic Language/Dyslexia Therapy.

Mrs. Ruse and her husband Austin received the John Paul II Award for Advancing the Culture of Life and the Defender of Life Award from Students for Life of America. They are the proud parents of two wonderful daughters.

ACTION ITEMS

  • Be very present to your children: As parents, we must be the primary educators of our children in all things, and especially in matters of sexuality. It is from parents and churches that children will hear the good news about God’s design for human sexuality.
  • Teach your children: Sex is for intimate unity within marriage and this union creates children. Marriage is for the protection and benefit of children. Children will understand the true meaning and purpose of sex within marriage, and that marriage is for the protection and benefit of children. Parents must confidently and consistently share these important messages with their children, because their children are not likely to hear them in our culture or in our public schools.
  • You must interfere: Immoral sex ed works best when parents don’t interfere. You must interfere.
  • Help your child organize a club: Choose a focus that will have a positive impact on the school, like a Bible Study club, a Pure Fashion club, a Biology Club, or a Christian Athletes club.
  • Invite a group to review sex ed materials: Invited trusted parents to review your school’s sex ed lessons. Read the actual lessons, watch the videos, and visit the recommended web sites. Do not rely on the summaries provided by the school and do not settle for being handed a packet of home resources to “reinforce” the lesson. Demand to see the actual lessons your children will see.

    Parents may opt their children out of this material whenever and wherever it may crop up—in lessons, school events, assemblies, classes, or any activities that violate their families’ beliefs.

  • Every school year, file the “Universal Model Opt-Out letter” (template provided by Family Research Council):downloads.frc.org/EF/EF19J21.pdf

Resources

Direct download: 29-Ruse.mp3
Category:religious liberty -- posted at: 12:00pm PDT

Dr. Erin Brewer developed a trans identity after being molested in first grade. She did everything she could to be a boy. In her mind, she *was* a boy. But instead of enabling this delusion, Erin's mother eventually sent her to a therapist, and she received proper care to manage her gender confused feelings. She eventually accepted her gender, but continued running away from God.

She became a star on the most popular pornography site in the world, making the top 20 most popular amateur performers, with over 10.8 million views and more than 400 videos. She was saved from pornography when she accepted Jesus as her Savior. She deleted all of her videos and is now speaking out about the dangers of gender ideology and porn. She openly shares her deeply personal story to help others understand the damage that is being done to our children by the transgender movement. Erin earned her bachelors degree from Hampshire College, and her Doctorate in Instructional Technology and Learning Science from Utah State University.

This is an audio podcast of The Dr J Show. Full video episode is available here.

Action Items

  • Dr. Brewer urges followers of the Ruth Institute to contact your congressmen and senators to express opposition to the Equality Act
  • Tell our legislators to pass laws requiring age verification for online pornography
  • Petition our state legislators to ban transgender drugs for children
  • Share memes on social media like those found on the Ruth Institute Facebook page
  • Oppose bans against “conversion” therapy, and share stories of reparative therapy helping people out of unwanted same-sex attraction (see the Ruth Institute's Cloud of Witnesses project)
  • Email your local school district and find out what kind of “sex positive” and “inclusive” programs your school districts support.
  • Lobby school districts to oppose any policies that allow a child to self-identify as the opposite sex
  • Write or call the Children’s Hospital of Los Angeles and tell them to stop supporting Dr. Olsen-Kennedy, who is encouraging children as young as eight years old to take cross-gender hormones and 13 year-old girls to have their breasts amputated:

    Children's Hospital Los Angeles
    4650 Sunset Blvd.
    Los Angeles, CA 90027
    Phone: (323) 660-2450

  • Write or call The National Institute of Health to express opposition to funding Dr. Olsen-Kennedy’s child abuse:

    National Institutes of Health
    9000 Rockville Pike
    Bethesda, Maryland 20892
    Phone: (301) 496-4000

Resources

Direct download: 28-Brewer.mp3
Category:transgender -- posted at: 12:00pm PDT

Ambassador Dr. Alan Keyes is an American conservative political activist, pundit, author, former ambassador to the United Nations and Adviser to President Ronald Reagan, two-time major presidential candidate, husband and father. His stated purpose in life, like that of the America’s Founders, is to provide a secure future for our children and our posterity.

Keyes is an unparalleled leader among moral conservatives. His Harvard University Doctorate in Government with its emphasis on our Constitution, his extensive experience in American government, along with his great faith in God’s part in the founding of that government enable him to provide a cogent defense of morality in America! Ambassador Keyes has unashamedly and consistently raised the standard of unalienable rights and Biblical truth in defense of preborn children. He confronts the culture of death with compelling and inspiring reasons why abortion must be banned from our land, and speaks in all parts of our country in an attempt to educate those unaware of the threat to the very existence of the United States. He boldly speaks to bolster the troops!

This is an audio podcast of The Dr J Show. Full video episode is available here.

Direct download: 27-Keyes.mp3
Category:religious liberty -- posted at: 12:00pm PDT

This week our podcast has three brief interviews from pro-life leaders at the Greater Cleveland Right to Life's "Bringing America Back to Life" Convention, held March 6th and 7th.

This is an audio podcast of The Dr J Show. Full video episode is available here.

Communication expert Dr. Christine M. Bacon, Ph.D., is an author, international speaker, trainer and radio talk-show host of "Breakfast with Bacon: The Relationship Doctor." Her latest book is "The Super Couple: A Formula for Extreme Happiness in Marriage." Dr Bacon is president of CMB Communication, and is sought-after relationship coach who works with couples seeking to reconcile. She is most passionate about teaching the skills of reconciliation in those relationships deemed “hopeless” or irreconcilable. Dr. Bacon received her M.A. and Ph.D. in Interpersonal communication from Regent University and her B.A. in Communication from Old Dominion University.

Attorney Jeffrey Barefoot is the founder and President of Ressourcement, which specializes in financial planning. He is a graduate of Miami University (Oxford) and the University of Toledo College Of Law. Jeffrey has spoken on money management to over 100 organizations through the U.S. and Europe. He is also the Board President of Greater Toledo-Area Right to Life. And, he heads up The Strategic Policy Committee for The Right To Life Action Coalition of Ohio (RTLACO). In his college years, he converted to Christ from Unitarianism, and thirty years later he joined the Catholic church. He is the father of three adult children and two grandchildren.

Personhood Alliance president Gualberto Garcia Jones is an attorney who began pro-life activism in college. Mr. Garcia Jones is the Executive Director of the International Human Rights Group, serving for the past ten years as a legal expert on human rights issues for various organizations around the world. He has drafted dozens of legislative proposals and testified before U.S. federal and state governments. Mr. Garcia Jones has written and submitted legal briefs for cases before numerous courts, including the U.S. Supreme Court and the Constitutional Court of Colombia. Gualberto was born in Spain and emigrated to the United States. He graduated from the University of Wisconsin with a double major in history and political science and received his law degree from The George Washington University School of Law. He has clerked for District Court judges and worked on the staff of U.S. senators.

Direct download: 26-BABL.mp3
Category:abortion -- posted at: 12:00pm PDT

This week we bring you part two of Katrina Zeno's explanation of John Paul II's "Theology of the Body."

Katrina J. Zeno, MTS, has served as the founding coordinator of the St. John Paul II Resource Center for Theology of the Body and Culture for the Diocese of Phoenix, AZ for 14 years, and has been speaking around the world on the Theology of the Body for over 23 years --not as simply another "subject" that is taught, but as the foundation of all that is taught and lived. Katrina is the author of three books including Discovering the Feminine Genius and The Body Reveals God, over 50 articles, and a blog entitled, “TOB Tuesdays.” She received her master in theological studies from the Pontifical John Paul II Institute in Washington, DC, and her BA in theology from Franciscan University of Steubenville. When not speaking, Katrina enjoys dancing salsa and Argentine tango, hiking, swimming, playing table tennis, and spending time with her married son Michael and her new granddaughter.

This is an audio podcast of The Dr J Show. Full video episode is available here.

Direct download: 25-Zeno.mp3
Category:religious liberty -- posted at: 12:00pm PDT

(February 28, 2020) Dr J is speaking with Traci DeVette Griggs on Family Policy Matters. Their topic is the "seamless garment," an idea that has had several meanings over the years. In the 1980s, it meant a consistent position on the life issues; more recently, it has been used as a way to downplay the horrors of abortion in favor of other issues. Dr J has some thoughts on this.

Direct download: Mar09_20.mp3
Category:abortion -- posted at: 12:00pm PDT

(March 6, 2020) Dr J is one of the speakers at the "Bringing America Back to Life" convention in Cleveland held on March 6th and 7th this year. She gave her presentation on "Understanding and Combatting the Sexual Revolution."

Direct download: Mar06_20.mp3
Category:sexual revolution -- posted at: 12:00pm PDT

This week we bring you an expert on Pope John Paul II's "Theology of the Body" in two parts! Katrina J. Zeno, MTS, has served as the founding coordinator of the St. John Paul II Resource Center for Theology of the Body and Culture for the Diocese of Phoenix, AZ for 14 years, and has been speaking around the world on the Theology of the Body for over 23 years --not as simply another "subject" that is taught, but as the foundation of all that is taught and lived. Katrina is the author of three books including Discovering the Feminine Genius and The Body Reveals God, over 50 articles, and a blog entitled, “TOB Tuesdays.” She received her master in theological studies from the Pontifical John Paul II Institute in Washington, DC, and her BA in theology from Franciscan University of Steubenville. When not speaking, Katrina enjoys dancing salsa and Argentine tango, hiking, swimming, playing table tennis, and spending time with her married son Michael and her new granddaughter.

This is an audio podcast of The Dr J Show. Full video episode is available here.

Direct download: 24-Zeno.mp3
Category:religious liberty -- posted at: 12:00pm PDT

This week we offer the powerful testimony of Paul Darrow, a victim of the Sexual Revolution whose transformed life has given hope to many entangled in same-sex attraction.

Paul moved to Manhattan immediately after graduating college and became an international fashion model, a pleasure-seeker, and an atheist. His former hedonistic life, glamorous career, and ties to high society have provided him with invaluable insight into today’s alternative lifestyles. But Jesus changed his life forever. Shortly after converting to Catholicism, Paul was surprised to find himself being filmed as a subject for the award-winning movie Desire of the Everlasting Hills, which won the JP2 Film Festival Award. Paul's conversion story is so powerful that he was invited to speak at the Angelicum in Rome, where he pleaded with Cardinals and other clergy to defend and propagate the teachings of the Catholic Church on homosexuality. Paul has appeared on EWTN and is a frequent guest on talk radio from coast to coast. Whether giving presentations to high school and college students, priests, seminarians, penitentiary inmates or Catholic groups across the U.S. and in Europe, Paul shares his unusual testimony in order to be a living example that God’s grace is more powerful than even the greatest of human temptations.

Resources

  • Desire of the Everlasting Hills movie, everlastinghills.org
  • Courage International, couragerc.org
  • One Minute Apologist (videos, testimonies, and answers), oneminuteapologist.com
  • quote from psychiatrist Dr. Daniel Capron: "Homosexuality by definition is not healthy and wholesome. The homosexual person, at best, will be unhappier and more unfulfilled than the sexually normal person."

Action Items

  • Keep the lines of communication open with loved ones struggling with same-sex attraction. Do not close those doors. Stay friends, and let them know you love them unconditionally.
  • Check out the movie Desire of the Everlasting Hills at everlastinghills.org
  • Read and share (post!) the stories at changedmovement.com/
  • If you struggle with same-sex attraction, visit Courage International: couragerc.org
Direct download: 23-Darrow.mp3
Category:Cloud of Witnesses -- posted at: 12:57pm PDT

(February 27, 2020) Dr J is a guest of Father Robert McTeigue on The Station of the Cross's The Catholic Current. Today they're discussing the new colonialism: ideological imperialism and the West's attempt to export the sexual revolution to developing countries.

Direct download: Feb27_20.mp3
Category:contraception -- posted at: 12:00pm PDT

(February 26, 2020) The Ruth Institute had the opportunity to deliver our "Make the Family Great Again" petition to the Trump State Department's Commission on Unalienable Rights earlier this month. Dr J gave a 10-minute presentation on the petition and delivery at Business Network International.

Direct download: Feb26_20.mp3
Category:Family -- posted at: 12:00pm PDT

Attorney Paul M. Jonna is the newest member of the Ruth Institute’s Board of Directors. He is a partner with LiMandri & Jonna, a civil litigation practice based in Rancho Santa Fe, CA. Jonna was selected by the San Diego Business Journal as one of the “Best of the Bar,” and was a three-term President of the St. Thomas More Society of San Diego. He is also Senior Trial Counsel with the Freedom of Conscience Defense Fund, where he has successfully defended Tastries Bakery in a same-sex wedding cake case, and parents against a San Diego public school "anti-Islamophobia" indoctrinization. He most recently represents David Daleiden and the Center for Medical Progress, whose undercover videos exposed Planned Parenthood illegally selling aborted fetal body parts.

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Direct download: 22-Jonna.mp3
Category:abortion -- posted at: 12:00pm PDT

(February 21, 2020) The Ruth Institute had the opportunity to deliver our "Make the Family Great Again" petition to the Trump State Department's Commission on Unalienable Rights today, February 21st, 2020. Dr J gave a few remarks on the petition to the commission as well.

Direct download: Feb21_20.mp3
Category:Family -- posted at: 12:00pm PDT

(February 15, 2020) Dr J gives a talk on the Ugandan martyrs. She was invited to St Henry Catholic church in Lake Charles to speak on the subject after returning from her trip to Uganda last December.

Direct download: Feb15_20.mp3
Category:religious liberty -- posted at: 12:00pm PDT

This week's podcast is a "primer" in Gender Ideology by Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse. She spoke to a Catholic group of teens and their parents in Arizona last week, and after her talk, she took questions from the group. We thought it made a perfect introduction to the subject, including offering answers to those struggling with pressures from friends and the media on transgender issues.

We hope to produce many other "primers" on topics of critical import to the family, marriage, and children's rights. We kind of think of it as "Basic Training" in "resisting" the politically-correct world. As we say in the introduction:

Faith, love, and hope are being destroyed in the hearts of vulnerable people. Life and death are literally in the balance. This is your "basic training" in a war for societal sanity.

RUTH INSTITUTE RESISTANCE: In these basic training episodes, Dr. Morse will dispel politically-correct confusion, expose lies, and reveal freedom-giving truth.

The Ruth Institute is building a coalition to defend marriage and the family, stand up for children's rights, support victims of the Sexual Revolution, and facilitate a civilization of love. JOIN THE RUTH INSTITUTE RESISTANCE.

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Direct download: 21-Morse.mp3
Category:transgender -- posted at: 12:00pm PDT

These witnesses' lives prove that being "gay" is NOT immutable. Each of them has found a way out, and testifies that there is a better way to live. The Ruth Institute has collected many of these "former LGBTQIA+" and we want YOU to share their truths! It's as simple as copying a link from the Ruth Institute's Cloud of Witnesses and pasting it on your Facebook, or Twitter, or Instagram timeline!

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Cloud of Witnesses: stories and testimonies from people who've left the "gay" lifestyle

We have the numbers and the truth that the Sexual Revolution has not made people happy. Hundreds of millions of people have been irreparably harmed by the Sexual Revolution. If you've been harmed by the Sexual Revolution, whether a child (or spouse) of divorce, a single mother, a post-abortive man or woman, a gender dysphoric, or a former LGBTQIA+, PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR YOUR STORY!

Direct download: 20-Morse.mp3
Category:Cloud of Witnesses -- posted at: 12:00pm PDT

After 29 years of lesbian life, Ms. Cothran experienced a radical transformation in 2006 months after an encounter with Jesus Christ during Chicago Black Gay Pride event.

By her new life and work, Charlene offers evidence that God is still in the business of changing lives! She is now a pro-family activist, an international evangelist, and conference speaker. She offers expert testimony for legislators fighting for religious freedom in the U.S. and abroad.

Reverend Charlene E. Cothran is President of The Evidence Ministry, Inc., a ministry of the Zion Baptist Church of Palm Coast, Florida. Charlene is a former advocate for gay rights and former active member of: the Human Rights Campaign, the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, the National Lesbian Conference, the National Black Gay and Lesbian Leadership Forum, recruited by the VICTORY Fund, and was the co-founder of In The Life Atlanta (Black gay pride), and founder of Hospitality Atlanta. She was also the publisher of an internationally distributed gay and lesbian lifestyles magazine, VENUS.

Resources

Direct download: Cothran.mp3
Category:Cloud of Witnesses -- posted at: 12:00pm PDT